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“It is demonstrable that things cannot be otherwise as they are; for as all things have been created for some end, they must necessarily be created for the best end.” –Pangloss

Tragedy struck on December 27, 2008 when a prominent AIDS denialist succumbed to complications from her disease. Christine Maggiore had a long and successful career denying the HIV virus causes AIDS, with a high point surely her advisory role in South Africa’s temporary block on government funded AIDS medical treatment (estimated to have cost the lives of 330,000 people), or perhaps the founding of “Alive and Well AIDS Alternatives,” an organization dedicated to encouraging HIV infected people to avoid HIV medications and treatment in favor of naturopathic remedies. I don’t personally believe she was a good person, but one can’t deny she suffered because of her beliefs and the choices she made considering them. To be equally fair one must also consider how they affected the lives of the people closest to her.

Great controversy was created with the publicizing of her choice to breast feed her children despite being tested HIV positive. Her public stance to not take antiretroviral medication while doing so increased the likelihood of transmission to her daughter. These drugs have been shown to reduce this risk, with the drug AZT thought to reduce it by at least 23% [1]. At the age of three, her daughter Eliza Jane fell ill with Pneumonia-like symptoms and her mother’s continued refusal to have her tested for HIV made matters worse. After doctor shopping, she eventually chose a sympathetic holistic practitioner connected with her organization for treatment who claimed her daughter was “only mildly ill.” A month later she was dead. Autopsy reports revealed a more disturbing picture showing that she was seriously underweight, had pronounced atrophy of the thymus and lymphatic organs and her lungs were infected with an opportunistic pathogen called Pneumocystis jiroveci (#1 cause of death in pediatric AIDS cases), all of which are considered classic indicators of AIDS. Furthermore, it revealed HIV protein components in her brain tissue, which is an indicator of HIV encephalitis. Maggiore rejected the conclusions alleging fraud and incompetence, choosing instead to rely of the review of an animal pathologist close to her organization. Predictably, his findings described her death as attributed to a poor interaction from amoxicillin, a claim dismissed as preposterous by professionals in the field. Ultimately, Maggiore would not have long to consider the nature of her daughter’s death, as her own health began to take a severe turn for the worse.

I don’t believe there is anything funny or ironic in this tragedy, just sadness and pity. A three year old is dead and died needlessly, infected as a direct result of her mother’s inconsiderate beliefs. Thousands more died as a result of her enterprise and even more are continually mislead into unsafe and disreputable treatments, hampering real efforts to contain and manage the disease. What went so wrong, that would force her to ignore all medical evidence regarding her condition? What made the collective body of evidence so thoroughly unconvincing, so unbelievable that she would gamble the lives of her children upon this rhetoric? The inability to convince the majority of people or to provide a successful, publicly accepted counter-argument to this surely is a great collective failure of medicine today. Despite its successes treating injury and establishing a biological basis for disease there are many that whether of stubborn obstinance or more likely lacking a clear description of the science behind it find it inconsistent or at worst disreputable.

Anti-vaccinationists, for example, despite years of successful treatment and the virtual eradication of diseases like small pox and polio

Old cows still say moo.

in the western world, still pose arguments of the dangers and inefficacy of the treatment. Religious and personal freedom based arguments posed reach back well over 100 years to echo the originals. However, arguments alleging the dangers of it are finding fresh audiences despite both empirical and otherwise anecdotal evidence to the contrary. Peter Morrell, a UK homeopath, wrote in a scathing editorial in 2000[2]:

“It does not work; it is unnatural, that the human race has survived healthily for countless generations without them and that homeopathy provides a better alternative that is both safer and effective…One can see the dangers and pitfalls of vaccination as another Russian roulette game not worth the risk.”

This is probably safe.

Perhaps if the collective medical profession relied upon a farcical theory like homeopathy’s “water memory,” then the comparison to gambling would be apt, but this is not the case. Though it is impossible to account for every possibility, medications and treatments are tested for both safety and effectiveness. Furthermore, results are verified by repeated testing to further clarify specific effect from lucky incidence. The double blind trial developed in the early 1900’s further limited sources of error such as observer bias and experimenter effects. It did more to help the sick in 100 years, than ostensibly “better alternatives” did in 200, by allowing the measurement of an effect to be defined and separated from statistical placebo effects. If homeopathy truly provides a better alternative, then results from studies [3][4] would clearly show benefit beyond placebo and experiments with positive correlation would be repeatable by other parties. After all, what good is a treatment that works only for some or some of the time for a few lucky people? If we’re seriously going to make the allusion to gambling, wouldn’t it be better to side with the hand the yields a consistent and high rate of return?

“Infectious diseases in general have declined massively since 1900…”

It also shouldn’t surprise anyone who has taken a bath recently, that good hygiene is good preventative medicine. Before the advent of sewage systems, cities were severely limited in size, usually by the occurrence of disease. John Snow’s 1854 correlation that the year’s cholera epidemic was caused by contaminated city water (specifically around a single city pump) established a basis for statistical observation in the causes of disease. Though he did not know the exact cause of the cholera, using a map he was able to show that nearly all of the deaths attributed to the epidemic could be traced back to that particular location. It was later shown that the pump was dug too close to a cesspool and it was leaking fecal matter into the drinking water. Cleanliness and proper hygiene have an effect on certain diseases, yet it is important to make a distinction that it does not affect all diseases in the same fashion. This can be seen even today with outbreaks of measles and rubella (etc) among unvaccinated populations in western nations despite the herd immunities largely present and public water purification efforts taken. The MMR vaccine controversy in the 2000’s started with the speculation that the vaccine could cause autism and continues to cause great fears among parents pushing a dip in non-compliance. This dip has been credited with causing a large upsurge in these diseases. The CDC, for example, reported that cases of measles in 2008 were at a 12 year high [5][6]. Publicly, it matters little that the progenitor of this vaccine scare, Dr Andrew Wakefield, has been shown to have altered his data in favor of parties he accepted money from [7][8]. To the public, the fear is real and the accusation is enough to cause panic.

Royal Rife hard at work.

I recently had the pleasure of interviewing a UFO conspiracy theorist. His main argument was that all sciences, except aeronautics, have advanced exponentially[*] since the Roswell UFO landings, perpetuating unearthly advances in science and technology that were previously impossible with our ‘feeble’ intellect. There is a fallacy here that doesn’t revolve around the usual skeptics rallying point, but that there is a strong public belief in the infallibility of science, such that lay people often times, when confronted with the limitations of science, would rather believe in a conspiracy of failures than in the truth: that at any given point science is far from solving the collective mass of problems affecting us at present (“for every problem solved there are hundreds more questions”).  His argument views the discoveries of science as a linear progression, completely ignoring the ‘fallen warriors’ left by the roadside to get to that point.  The theories of phlogiston and geocentrism no longer hold the same philosophic sway they once did, as they have been replaced by more accurate descriptions of the world around us.  Much in the same way, medical science in some ways has been the victim of its own success, in that people seemingly have a genuine expectation that “a disease with a name will have a cure.” This leads to disappointment at its failures and current limited ability to cure and is exemplified by the many conspiracy theories involving “big pharma” holding back “real” treatments for AIDS and cancer. Take for example, author Barry Lynes’ 1987 book “The Cancer Cure that Worked,” about Royal Rife’s supposed cancer curing radionic devices and their subsequent cover-up [8]. Robert Strecker’s work on the alleged manufacture of the HIV at Ft. Dietrick as a tool to limit the industrial growth of Africa, as well as several involving the chemical AL-721 as an AIDs cure too cheap to sell are all examples of this common theme. The secret wish is the promise of success, in that things are as they are, because they are “created for the best end.”

The main issue is that the representatives of science have been sending a mixed message, especially in light of the recent inclusion of “alternative medicines” like homeopathy into the pantheon of medical techniques. The term itself insinuates a duality of being as if the two occupy separate halves of a holistic continuity (good/evil, yin/yang, republican/democrat). This image is only furthered by state required licensure of practitioners, yielding a further sense of legitimacy to these otherwise unproven techniques. This duality, at least in the public eye, gives a degree of plausible deniability. Science may say the evidence shows they work no better than placebos, but they can say (and do) that the scientific method is incompatible with their art. If they’re considered, even just rhetorically at an equivalent level, then it appears as just two rival businesses competing for customers and any debate on the subject is subsequently viewed as a rhetorical advertisement rather than a statement of just the facts. Legitimate studies, whether for or against, are viewed with contempt and as the product of that party’s particular bias. This issue is further compounded as medicine becomes less reliant on the humanistic bedside manner that became a doctor’s stereotypic image in the public eye. The doctor-patient relationship and the trust that comes with it has been eroded by impersonal, corporate business practice and this bubble is being largely filled by alternative medicines. People do not like being treated as a mechanistic collection of systems and holistic imagery relates to them in a way that an impersonal blood test cannot, even if the two are at odds factually. The growing impersonal aspect of modern medicine only encourages people like Maggiore and Morrell, further allowing them a gray area to exploit.

[1] Basic and Clinical Pharmacology 10th Ed., Bertram G. Katzung, MD, PhD

[2] http://epe.lac-bac.gc.ca/100/201/300…ue-7/10-13.htm

[3] “Homeopathy remains one of the most controversial subjects in therapeutics. This article is an attempt to clarify its effectiveness based on recent systematic reviews. Electronic databases were searched for systematic reviews/meta-analysis on the subject. Seventeen articles fulfilled the inclusion/exclusion criteria. Six of them related to re-analyses of one landmark meta-analysis. Collectively they implied that the overall positive result of this meta-analysis is not supported by a critical analysis of the data. Eleven independent systematic reviews were located. Collectively they failed to provide strong evidence in favour of homeopathy. In particular, there was no condition which responds convincingly better to homeopathic treatment than to placebo or other control interventions. Similarly, there was no homeopathic remedy that was demonstrated to yield clinical effects that are convincingly different from placebo. It is concluded that the best clinical evidence for homeopathy available to date does not warrant positive recommendations for its use in clinical practice.”

[4] Another Homeopathy study.

[5] http://www.medpagetoday.com/Infectio…sDisease/10629

[6] “A trend which continues into 2009” was what I wrote, but this appears to be wrong according to the guardian. Touche~

[7] http://www.medpagetoday.com/Pediatrics/Autism/12850

[8] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17867721

[*] He was an interesting character. Among other things he believed that a class of human beings were alien-human hybrids and ordinary humans lacked the intellectual fortitude to build the sphinx and pyramids, ascribing a mystical super-scientific power to their magnificence. Aeronautics was supposedly held back, because “they” want to kept us from knowing where we really come from. This is also the reason we haven’t been back to the moon, that and they have a base on the dark side. I enjoyed the interview. He even laughed when I asked if phrenology would benefit greatly from the alien wisdom. These are a different story, though.

[9] description of the book and summary.

Written on April 15, 2009


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Gyoza are a Japanese rendition of an old Chinese recipe for pork dumplings. This is one of the more ubiquitous things Japanese families serve and are generally found in most restaurants, especially ramen stops and donburi places.  Some restaurants, like “Gyoza no Oo” (‘king of gyoza’), specialize in them.  These are so ubiquitous that grocery stores usually stock a manufactured freeze dried version.  Generally, they are served as a side dish or even a main course where a family will eat off of a large hot plate in a similar fashion to yakiniku.

The recipe is fairly easy and most of the ingredients can be found in a standard Asian foods grocery store.  The general ingredients are round gyoza wrappers, ground pork, garlic, nira (similar to chives or green onion), shredded cabbage, soy sauce, sake, ground fresh ginger and some black pepper for basic flavoring.  Additionally, we like to add some red miso paste, a little yellow onion and ground beef

This is the meat mix.

so that the meat is a 30/70 mix.  The miso paste is also something that we just like; it gives them an earthier, sweet taste.  Some recipes also add sesame oil to the mix, but I’m not really fond of it personally.  There are many locally accepted additions to this framework that are typically regionally famous.  For example, I’ve had crunchy renkon (lotus root) gyoza before, which was interesting as a local oddity.

Lets get down to it. Boil all vegetables until soft then cut and drain most of the excess water. Mix the pork, spices and a heaping spoon of miso paste.  Add a spoon of soy sauce and a spoon of sake.  These two ingredients and the pepper are generally to personal taste.  Cover the meat and let it stand for 10 minutes or so.

Next comes the tedious wrapping process:

The first thing you need to know is how to work with dumpling wrappers.  Dumpling wrappers work best when they are cold and usually people buy them in the store’s freezer section.  Let these thaw either in a fridge or outside to near room temperature. The key is to not let them get too warm or they’ll melt and stick together.  Once that happens there’s nothing you can really do with them.  Usually, they’re coated in starch to aid in the wrapping process by removing that extra moisture that’s always around in these climates.  The biggest point is to not let them get them wet before using them.  Take a small ball of meat and put it on the center of the wrapper then while in the palm of your hand line the edge of the wrapper with a little bit of water.  This will make it stick when you fold the wrapper up. Folding it is hard to describe, but pinch the outside edge and fold it over about 1 cm and repeat this 4-5 times. Set aside somewhere dry and wait to cook. Repeat this process several hundred times and you’re set for dinner.

To cook them place them in a fry pan and sear the bottom until golden brown.  This will help them release from the pan and give them a crispy skin once their done.  Once they’re browned, add just enough water to cover the bottom of the pan.  Cover with a lid and listen to the sound.  When they’re done, you’ll hear the sound of the water boiling change to a higher note.  This means that most of the water should be boiled off and the gyoza should be ready to eat.  Cut the heat and enjoy.  We eat them right off the hot plate.  Another option aside from frying them would be to use them in soups, in a similar way to wonton soup in Chinese restaurants in the states.

One more thing, I almost forgot the sauce. People usually dip them in some kind of sauce, variations of which are almost endless.  You can buy them or make them from stuff in you kitchen.  Most of these sauces have a soy sauce base, with something else to give it a little spice.  I’ve used ponzu (a kind of citrus soy sauce), raiyu (red chill oil) or just delicious sriracha.  Some people also add sesame oil to the mix, but I’m not a fan.

Lonely prey, stalked, waits to be eaten

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As I was running yesterday a thought occurred to me as the steady, percussive hum of wings buzzed by me several times: one giant Asian hornet (an osuzumebachi) is startling, but several dozen is pretty scary. Apparently, I had run too close to a nest and had to hot foot it out; I was lucky.

These things are pretty amazing creatures, with an average body length of 2 inches and a wing span of 3, you will stand up and take notice when they fly past. As with many bee and hornet stings single stings can be deadly as a result of anaphylactic shock, but this is fortunately a rare occurrence. Nonetheless, the hornets are nothing to take lightly as the venom contains an interesting mix of nastiness, as well as a barbless stinger, which it can use repeatedly unlike regular honey bees. The venom contains neurotransmitters like serotonin and acetylcholine, which is responsible for pain transmission, a neurotoxin called mandaratoxin, tissue dissolving enzymes such as phospholipase-B, a mast cell degranulating peptide called mastoparan and a pheromone that instigates other hornets to swarm and attack. Aside from pain, the stings usually leave a dime-sized scar not unlike those of certain poisonous spiders in the southwestern US.

The hornets terrorize smaller, weaker prey like praying mantii and Japanese honey bees. The bee’s stingers are too small to penetrate the hornet’s tough, armored exoskeleton and thus have little defense from a full on attack. They reputably work with ruthless efficiency, a single hornet able to kill as many as 40 bees per minute and a few hornets only a few hours to slaughter a 30,000 bee colony. Interestingly, the bees have a small defense against them in their greater tolerance for heat. Typically, the bees will entice a scout inside the hive, where they will attempt to smother him in a bull rush. Once he is covered, the bees will vibrate their flight muscles increasing the heat in the area to around 47C. The hornets can’t survive past 45C, preventing the scout from calling reinforcements.

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDSf3Kshq1M
Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpcHH1EpTZM

Even though, these may seem like kings of the forest, human initiative has once again found ways to make use of nature. The Japanese love energy drinks, one of the more famous products, VAAM is of particular note. As advertising shows it has been the favorite of many a marathon runner and endurance athlete. Yet a little less advertised fact is that it’s a chemical copy of the stomach contents of these hornets. More specifically, it is a copy of the secretions of the colony’s larvae, which the adults feed upon as they lack the ability to digest raw protein themselves. How’s that for wild? This mixture of predigested amino acids and sugars supposedly allows them to fly distances of 60 miles per day at rates of 25-40 miles per hour.

Sounds perfect for runners, now lets have a toast!

As gross as that sounds many professional athletes here swear by its supposed benefits and from personal experience it tastes pretty good. The question of the day, though, is one of efficacy: Does it work? Dr. Takashi Abe of the Institute of Physical and Chemical Research in Japan seems to think so. “VAAM works by helping the body burn the energy it stores more efficiently”…”[It] expedites the metabolism of fat and promotes better hydration,” said Dr. Abe. Animal studies conducted by Abe concluded that mice that were fed VAAM could swim twice as long as those that were fed only water and 25% longer than those fed casein, a protein found in milk. Their blood also contained fewer fatty acids than those of the other groups, an indication of how efficiently the mice were burning their fat reserves. Details are sketchy as to how it might actually accomplish these feats. One possible route may be through the branched chain amino acids in it, which increase the effect of insulin in the body. The product contains a mixture of leucine, isoleucine and valine, of which leucine is considered the most effective at this. Leucine reportedly “increases insulin output by 221%,” if taken with carbohydrates after exercise.

If you’re thinking: “At last the perfect supplement to my admittedly weak dietary habits, that will propel me to epic heights of fame and fortune,” then you’re most likely going to be disappointed (mostly in yourself). I’ll save you the trouble and clue you in to something important: the supplement industry is mostly a joke played on the lazy for the fun of a few bored chemists. Though there might be a slight benefit to some supplementation, there is no substitute for hard work, but we delight in trying to make you think there is. (Next year’s big craze will be whale sperm marketed under the name SPEaRM—->.) On the other hand, if you’re looking to try something that tastes good to replenish your vital fluids during or after a workout, then this might be up your alley.

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Once you get past learning the kana, the daunting task of learning kanji rears its ugly head. Even for the Japanese this task is troublesome, considering that businessmen pay premium dollar to pass the kanji kentei. Supposedly, fewer than 10% of the people taking the highest level test pass it. However, for most basic reading quite a few less than 6,000 are needed and most of them have a logical system to understand the meaning. In fact, the system is quite a lot like English prefixes with the prefix applying a general meaning to another word. This means it doesn’t have to be just rote memorization. This also means you can learn from your past mistakes:

(yes, I know its a Chinese reading)

For example, the kanji (か) means “able” or “ible”. Take for instance: 可燃物 (かねんぶつ;flammable) or 可溶性 (かようせい; soluble). The first kanji modifies the meaning of the last two in a standard way according to its meaning.

Top Ten (or so) list:
1)  (ぎゃく; reverse, counter): 逆効果 (ぎゃくこうか;counterproductive), 逆コース (reverse course)
2) (ぜん; last, former,ex-): 前首相 (ぜんしゅしょう; ex-prime minister), 前世紀 (ぜんせいき; last century)
3) (ぜん; all, whole, entire, full):  全国民 (ぜんこくみん; whole nation), 全人口 (ぜんじんこう; entire population)
4)  (そう; entire, full, grand): 総選挙 (そうせんきょ; general election), 総合計 (そうごうけい; grand total), 総攻撃 (そうこうげき; full scale attack)
5)  (たい; to, with, anti): 対米輸出(たいべいゆしゅつ; exports to America), 対日貿易(たいにちぼうえき, trade with Japan), 対空ミサイル(たいくう; anti-aircraft missile)
6)  (たい; -proof): 耐火(たいか; fireproof), 耐熱 (たいねつ; heat resistant)
7)  (ちょう; super, ultra): 超特急(ちょうとっきゅう; super express (train)), 超音波 (ちょうおんぱ; ultra sonic waves)
8)  (どう; same): 同世代 (どうせいたい; same generation), 同年配 (どうねんぱい; same age)
9)  (はん; anti, counter): 反社会的 (はんしゃかいてき; anti-social), 反作用(はんさよう; counter action)
10) (ひ; un, non): 非金属 (ひきんぞく; non-metal), 非科学的 (ひかがくてき; unscientific), 非核 (ひかく; non-nuclear)
11)  (ふ; un, in, dis): 不自然 (ふしぜん; unnatural), 不正確 (ふせいかく; inaccurate, incorrect), 不満足 (ふまんぞく, discontent)

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If you’re looking for a small bit of techno-nostalgia, then the Yamaguchi SL line might be right up your alley. Starting from Shin-Yamaguchi station and ending in the castle town of Tsuwano, the line hosts a steam locomotive tour of the local area and an examination of Japanese train history. The train is one of, I think, 10 working steam locomotives in Japan and is run by a C571, built in 1937 by Kawasaki. The tour leaves at 10:30 am and arrives 12:30pm giving tourists about 3 hours to see Tsuwano’s famous castle and carp infested waterways (Sorry, no fishing permitted before dark). The train is popular, so it would be wise to buy tickets ahead of time by calling SL-Yamaguchi-Go at 0570 002 486. The train runs from March to October, throughout the summer.

As the whistle toots a commanding bellow, the train crawls to a start with each punch of the steel engine in front. Like a day after the shooting range, the cordite-esque smell drifts through the air, streams of soot trail behind as you ride. The rhythmic swinging crawl gradually lessens as the train accelerates to its cruising speed and the velvet seats become comfortable. Each of its 5 cars conforms to a different era of train travel in Japan adding a historic mystique to the 2 hour journey: The Meiji era with its leather buttoned seats, the Western with its velvet seats and stained glass boxes, the Taisho and the long-running Showa (the fifth car was apparently too famous to name).

Like the shinkansen, the cars are tended by a snack salesperson selling beer, candy and bento boxes. If you behave, the ticketmaster will give you cool SL stickers during the ride. Beware the tunnels if you ride on the patio deck, the soot and ash will cover you, but passing by the towns on the way is also fun. Many of the farmers along the track will wave and say hello as you pass by. It’s worth a visit, I think. Stop on by.

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I had this conversation yesterday at a training seminar with some dude. Comments?
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Some Dude: “Bacteria don’t cause disease.”

Me: “huh.”

“Bacteria, they’re usually harmless, even helpful.”

“yeah? I know people who’ve had cholera and malaria.”

“Nah, bacteria grow into pathogenic forms when a tissue becomes too high pH, otherwise they’re harmless or helpful for digestion. It’s a conspiracy. Modern medicine has been blocking real research into the cause of disease and making money off of things like antibiotics and vaccines.”

“Wait, those are two different things.”

“No, its true. We don’t really cure anything with chemicals, our own body does the work.”

“Depends on what you mean by cure, right?”

“Time is the only thing our body needs to repair itself, the immune system does the work, not some synthetic poison. These chemicals are poison and cause cancer or worse and the industry pollutes the environment with them. Look at chemotherapy, the treatment’s worse that the disease.”

“Yeah, but people still die of disease, have always died of disease. Yeah the immune system’s great, but far from perfect. I’m still not getting were you get that bacteria don’t cause disease.”

“Exactly. Even with these chemicals, people still die. People have shown that Pasteur lied about his research. Some have shown that the pH of tissues is the real cause of disease and that too high acidity invites the bacteria to become pathogenic. Tissue pH is the root cause and the bacteria are a scapegoat.”

“OK, diphtheria, we vaccinate for it now and its not really often seen anymore in the US, but its like a plague in countries with poor water sanitation and no vaccination programs. Tissue pH? Do you know about homeostasis?”

“It’s made up, The data’s all put together by the same groups that have been illegalizing real, traditional methods for treatment. These have been known for centuries in communities: herbal remedies, acupuncture and massage that work to push the immune system to fix what’s out of balance. Now we really only have one choice.”

“Diphtheria toxin is made by the bacteria, its deadly. In a sick person or animal you can take the bacteria or even isolate just the toxin. You can take either of these and cause the same disease in a healthy animal. Part of what makes it dangerous is its method of infection: it binds to a special nuclear protein that helps produce other proteins that make life possible. Without this working properly nothing works and the cells die. Immune system cells too. This is in contrast to the pH, but I’m still not sure exactly what you mean about that. Changes in pH can denature proteins and too great a change in blood either way most definitely will kill you, but this is different. And there are bacteria that love extremes of both as well, so–“

“That’s just what they say, just parroting corporate taglines: “I’m lovin’ it”. “

Yeah, uh, well look at the time…….”

“Corporate greed will always own us, unless we change and limit our reliance on these unnecessary methods.”

“….Yeah ok…..That’s fine, I’m probably with you on limiting corporate influence, but not with the disease issue. There’s nothing special about herbal remedies, they’re full of known chemicals as well. Take aspirin, this was an herbal remedy before, but now we’ve identified what it is and how it works. Besides, herbal remedies are interventions in the same way medicines are, as far as the immune system is concerned.”

“That’s what I mean. They control us with our want to have these chemicals, they control the production of them and who can sell them. They’re even trying to control who can produce food and what kind they can produce. Its all written down in the Codex Allimentarus.”

“Well, you want to make your own aspirin? —-You could too, but I still wouldn’t buy it from you, no offense.”

“It was just willow bark extract and we can’t even make that now.”

“Yeah, but no one is stopping you from making it for yourself. Just from selling a shitty and probably dangerous product to others. A couple of years ago, there was this incident where Bayer had an impurity where cyanide was left in the product and a bunch of people died. They got sued hard and almost lost their pants. The same can’t be said of suing you though, your khakis aren’t worth that much.”

“We still have to pay them for it and are still tied to their company. It’s not needed and there’s a better way to live. Especially without them controlling us in that way. We don’t need to have a system designed to exploit us, only for them to make a profit. We shouldn’t have to live like cattle.”

“Control isn’t the word I would choose, but yeah there is a way to live without it. I haven’t made up my mind if its “better”, but we could just live with the headache. Other things aren’t the same, though. If we’re talking about certain vaccinations, like the flu then maybe, but others I wouldn’t agree, like polio or the DPT. I couldn’t risk my kid’s lives that way, too much like taking them on a drag race or…”

“Vaccinations are full of side effects they don’t tell us about, they lie about. You’re risking your kids in that way too.”

“Are you talking about the ADHD scare a while ago?”

“That’s one of them, but now the only one. They cover up the dangers of using them. Stevens-Johnson syndrome is from taking too many antibiotics, it destroys your skin, burns the skin right off.”

“CDC’s webpage offers a listing of all known side effects of the vaccines, especially the rare ones. There probably are instances where they might have covered up data or just not released it, but the fact is that side effects from them are rare. There are side effects for every medicine, though, and for the most part this information is available. I guess that part of a cover up would be that its hard to find what you’re looking for in a mountain of data, in which case that makes it a perception issue……Stevens-Johnson, Is that an autoimmune disease?

“yeah, I think so, I’m not sure what kind of–probably.”

“Those kind of diseases are where the body’s own immune system develops antibodies against a tissue. Lupus is another one, probably better known. Oh, and Rheumatic arthritis is the same. The tissues or WBCs lose the ability to tell friend from foe and attack the tissue thinking its enemy cells. But I don’t think those are caused by taking antibiotics or drugs, not usually at least. Stevens-Johnson?”

“Yeah…..Its never lupus.”

“Poor Dr. House.”

“Heh, hold on a sec–phone’s browser is a little slow….Google says fewer than 300 in the US yearly. We are becoming cyborgs! Probably that high, because of our ‘drug habit’. … But that wasn’t really your point, though— how many? It was that there are side effects?”

“Yeah, and that they do more harm than good most times with a hidden cost of making us dependent on a third party. My sister has heart problems and we found out that the medication will kill her eventually anyway.”

“Jeez, I’m sorry to hear that…”

“Us too.”

“….you still want to talk about it?”

“It’s fine.”

“I bet the Carp are going to Okinawa for training this year?”


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